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'Did I do it?': Mentally ill suspect in 1979 murder of six-year-old Etan Patz admits to questioning whether he killed the boy

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  • Etan Patz disappeared in 1979 walking to his school bus stop in New York
  • In a taped confession, Pedro Hernandez, 53, said he kidnapped the boy
  • He told police he choked Etan after luring him to a basement with a soda
  • His lawyers say Hernandez lacks the mental ability to understand his rights
  • A judge had to decide not whether the confession was true, but whether it could be permitted to be used as evidence at Hernandez's murder trial
  • A new report from a psychologist has revealed Hernandez questioned himself over the murder after seeing a missing persons report on TV

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Published: 18:27 EST, 29 November 2014 | Updated: 02:52 EST, 30 November 2014

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As he watched TV reports on a 33-year-old missing-child case, a man who'd never been a suspect started pondering whether he was the killer, he later told a psychologist.

''Did I (do) it?'' . It was just a thought that came into my head,' Pedro Hernandez recalls in the psychologist's report, part of a recent court filing that adds new details about his defense in a case that galvanized the missing-children's movement.

'I was, like, nervous and questioning myself ... trying to make sense.'

Hernandez would soon tell police he did choke six-year-old Etan Patz in 1979, confessing after investigators were tipped that he'd spoken of having harmed a child.

'Did I do it?': Pedro Hernandez, who admitted to killing Etan Patz in 1979 in a taped confession, told a psychologist that he questioned himself over the murder after seeing a missing persons report on TV

'Did I do it?': Pedro Hernandez, who admitted to killing Etan Patz in 1979 in a taped confession, told a psychologist that he questioned himself over the murder after seeing a missing persons report on TV

But defense psychological experts later found him unsure of whether the brutal scenario he'd described was real or imaginary.

'I believed it in my mind that I did it, but I don't think I did it,' Hernandez, 53, told one psychologist.

The interplay between belief and reality is shaping up to be a central issue in his murder trial, set for early next year.

Since a judge ruled this week that jurors could hear Hernandez's confession, it will be up to them to decide whether it was true.

His defense says it was fiction from a man with an IQ in the bottom 2 percent of the population and mental illness that makes it difficult for him to distinguish real life from fantasy.

Prosecutors say his confession was legitimate, and they're seeking to limit proposed expert testimony on the psychological phenomenon of false confessions.

1979 crime: Pedro Hernandez has pleaded not guilty to murder in the strangling death of Etan Patz, who was one of the first missing persons to be placed on a milk carton

1979 crime: Pedro Hernandez has pleaded not guilty to murder in the strangling death of Etan Patz, who was one of the first missing persons to be placed on a milk carton

'We believe the evidence that Mr. Hernandez killed Etan Patz to be credible and persuasive and that his statements are not the product of any mental illness,' the Manhattan district attorney's office has said.

Etan vanished while walking to his school bus stop May 25, 1979, now memorialized as National Missing Children's Day. Hernandez then worked at a nearby corner store.

Etan was never found, and the investigation spanned decades. After police followed an ultimately fruitless lead to a Manhattan basement in April 2012 - the news Hernandez watched on TV - they got a tip about him.

Authorities eventually learned that in the 1980s, the Maple Shade, New Jersey, man apparently told a friend, his now-ex-wife and a church prayer circle he'd hurt an unnamed child in New York City.

One listener remembers him saying he'd dismembered a boy, another recalls him describing strangling a child after being hit with a ball, and even the child's race varied, according to one of three recently filed defense psychologist's reports.

But after more than six hours of police questioning, Hernandez gave a calm, consistent account to police and prosecutors on video in May 2012: He choked Etan, put the still-living boy into a plastic bag, stuffed the bag in a box and dumped it on a street.

'I felt like something just took over me,' he said.

Stan Patz
Julie Patz

Unanswered questions: Etan's parents Stan (left) and Julie Patz (right) have been attending Hernandez's trial

But after more than six hours of police questioning, Hernandez gave a calm, consistent account to police and prosecutors on video in May 2012: He choked Etan, put the still-living boy into a plastic bag, stuffed the bag in a box and dumped it on a street.

Six-year-old Etan Patz disappeared while walking to his school bus stop in Manhattan in 1979

Six-year-old Etan Patz disappeared while walking to his school bus stop in Manhattan in 1979

'I felt like something just took over me,' he said.

Hernandez has taken anti-psychotic medication for about a decade, and he's been diagnosed most recently with schizotypal personality disorder.

Characteristics include social isolation and odd beliefs.

He told police he's seen visions of his late mother.

He told defense doctors he has heard voices commanding him intermittently since his teens, seen furniture move on its own and observed people others don't see hanging out around his house.

He told defense doctors that a voice told him to approach Etan and that several mysterious people followed along during the attack, though he also said the memory 'feels like a dream,' according to the psychologists' reports.

'His delusional thinking and hallucinatory experiences could have easily caused him to convince himself he was somehow responsible for the boy's death when in fact he was not,' defense psychologist Bruce Frumkin wrote.

He said Hernandez's psychological problems and intellectual limitations put him 'at much greater risk than others' of falsely confessing.

Prosecutors dispute his conclusion, and they asked a judge this month to limit any potential false confession expert testimony to factors accepted by the 'scientific community,' citing a New York legal standard.

Hernandez's lawyer, Harvey Fishbein, said in court papers the testimony will meet the criteria.

Prosecutors haven't disclosed their own psychologists' evaluations.

But they've noted that Hernandez was never hospitalized for psychological problems before his arrest and that he'd shown the mental wherewithal to hold jobs, apply for government benefits and discuss religion.

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